The electrical conversion – starting in anger…

So.

Bits have arrived.

Exciting times!

I’ve opted for a 5kW motor; she’s around 3.5-4.0 tonnes, reasonably streamlined below the waterline, and (largely) won’t need to travel that fast. Anything faster than 5kts will start sucking the power; I’d err on the side of planning properly and not needing to rush. Add to that, most propulsion will be by sail.

For weekend use (at most) with a decent solar capacity that should give a decent charge in the gaps between use (I’m erring between 300-500W, that’s easily achievable in the space available). When she moves onto a swinging mooring, there will be the option of regen from the tidal stream, too, which will be a similar amount (if my calcs are right!). Need to avoid heating or cooking off the main battery banks, though, for this to work.

The diesel that typically inhabits a boat like this is 10-15hp (7.5-12kW) so this “feels” underpowered; but when you compare with other similar conversions, and look at the torques required on the prop shaft, it’s actually about right (I hope!). The difference is because that old diesel lump rotates at quite a different speed to the electric motor, and is run at partial throttle almost all the time. I may be sacrificing the ability to shake the boat to bits, but (a) this is almost never needed, (b) the diesel at this load point is pretty inefficient, and (c) the electric motor can significantly over-deliver for the short term (testing data on the 5kW motor I’ve gone for suggests 8kW output is totally achievable for short runs).

I’ve therefore gone with liquid cooled; the one thing I don’t want is overheating. I’ve also gone with significantly over-specified wiring and connections for the same reasons…

Another design decision, for this one, is to use 48V rather than higher voltages. The Low Voltage Directive would enable me to use 72V with no additional applicable regs (but not the 96V option) and the motor performs better. But that means more batteries, and that’s the pricey bit. So by sticking with 48V, I can install and test on a cheaper battery (and charging) setup, which will have (known) limits. I will be going LiFePO4 batteries (I expect) but rather than dropping several grand on a system I don’t know will perform how I expect it to, I’ve saved (rather a lot) on a temporary set of lead-acid batteries, which will be upgraded once the rest of the system is working how it should.

As an aside, one thing that’s surprised me is the cost of the wires, terminals, and “joining bits”. Anyone doing similar, don’t overlook these, it’s more than you’d think!

And finally, I‘m sure some bright spark has noticed there’s a few too many motors and controllers. In for a penny, in for a pound: I’m also going to convert my other boat – another 26 foot 3.5-4.0 tonne fibreglass hull, but this one a Freeman 26 on the river Thames. Twin screw, and a less efficient hull form (displacement hull with a flat transom) but on the Thames there’s never a need to plug a strong current or go any speed. So 2 off 3kW motors should be plenty. Batteries and solar will need to be bigger for this one, but the temporary setup described above should get me to any of the 3 local pubs and back… Plus, of course, it gives me the option of switching motors between boats, if they don’t perform as expected!

200A fuse? That’s quite a chunky beast…

Post-Winter blues

As work winds down, as the current project closes out, I’ve had more time.

This has been bliss; and not always used as effectively as it should have been (but it’s been a hell of a tough year, it’s been needed!)

There’s been two visits lately; both still flying day trips, until the leak(s) are fixed. But she’s been re-pressure-washed (that paint really does hold the mould, it’s been less than a year since it was last done), and attempts made to start stripping it off. That’s going to be a long job; there lots (and lots) of layers of various paints.

The old (and knackered) washboards have also been replaced with plastic ones, a cockpit cover measured up and quotes on the way, new mainsheet ordered, and a means of getting the dog onboard have been designed and started.

We’re getting there.

The big news? That is best in another post…

Which way round is better? Gloss or matt outward-facing?

After Winter…

It’s been a long time since the last update!

Not all wasted time, but … yeah, there’s been a lot on. And another lockdown. And, and, …

Cushions: The existing coverings were stripped off, the old foam “sanitised” (tempted to burn it, TBH!) and re-covered (with an additional inch of foam to make them more comfortable. They’re not in the boat yet, still a deal more cleaning and sorting to do before the “nice bits” go in.

Ceilings: The old coverings have been stripped off, but new ones not yet put up. Been doing the research into what I’ll need to do (and if there are suppliers who will do it for me!)

Floors: New rubber-backed carpet is ordered, and arrived, and now at the boat; but, … see below.

Electric conversion, it’s happening. Lots of number crunching has been done to work out what’s needed – from prop efficiency calcs, hull drag calcs, estimates of efficiencies, etc etc. It’s given me a clearer idea of what power / speed of motor to go for, and what will be needed in terms of batteries to have a given range / duration. But to be honest, until the thing is in and working, any estimate of power use at cruise speed (or speed at max power) is just that – an estimate. An educated guess. Still, parts are ordered (motors, controllers) and are on their way from overseas. But not here yet. Now for that nervous wait…

It’s not all roses, though.

Bad news. Water in her again – clearly not all leaks have been fixed. Not too much, and considering it’s been over 4 months, so it’s not that bad. Some investigations to be carried out when I can bail it out (it’s collecting in the under-floor compartment, there’s a small crack between that and the under-fridge compartment which is why I found it, so it could be from either the new stopcocks, from the other transducer in there, or from the other end somewhere if there’s similar leak paths from that end…) But it’s hard to get it out – there’s no access to that compartment! There is a little water in the bilges, as you’d expect (from the prop shaft, I expect) but which end did it come from?

Bah!

Going back in

It’s been a slog; and not all of it’s going on here.

But. We’ve made the deadline to get her back in before I’m off to Scotland, and before others need the space in the yard. Much assistance has been received from the guys in the yard, and it’s been appreciated.

What’s been done?

Stopcocks replaced (incl the section of fibreglass around them), anode replaced, prop taken back to bare metal, rudder bottom rebuilt and shaft straightened, keels taken back to a good surface and primed (many coats) and the whole boat anti-fouled, and a lot of tidying inside and out. Hopefully the sources of the leaks will have been found and fixed, and she’s ship-shape to go back in.

Now will be a bit of a drop in the work rate: I’m away for 3 weeks (first “leave” this year – though I’ll be doing some work most days even whilst away) and then have major deadlines on the “proper” (i.e. paid) work.

Getting the bottom half ship-shape really does put that crappy topsides paint into perspective, though…

Out of the water

August, she’s out of the water now. It’s all a bit backwards season-wise, being out in summer and in the drink for the winter, but … needs must. And suits my availability better, too.

Time for all those jobs needing access to the undersides.

First of all, yes, the rudder was bent. Not too much, but fouling on the hull at the centre. And was fairly mashed at the bottom. Prop … has seen better days. Anti-fouling … it’s been a while since it’s been done. Anode? Well, there’s a stub left, will still have been doing something, but not for much longer… But mercifully no sign of major osmosis problems, and the keels look in good shape (well attached and no significant rust). Some damage to a rubbing strake, but the rest of the hull looks generally OK.

Mixed blessings…

But plenty to do… And that’s before starting work on the conversion – first priority is making her watertight and possible to stay on…

Getting stuck in

First proper work.

It’s a slog, 5 hrs of driving and not being able to stay overnight.

But:

First day of proper work: Got the mainsail up (wrong one for the boat, but at least it fits – it’s from a Centaur), angle ground the sheets off the jib (totally rusted solid), removed fittings that won’t be needed, and generally made progress in making plans and removing stuff that won’t be needed. There’s a lot of that!

The following weekend was pressure washing. A lengthy process, and highlighted a depressing problem: All external surfaces (decks, both cabins) have been brush-painted (badly) with sand-filled grip paint. Who would do that, even on the cabin sides??? In places it’s flaking, in places it’s firm, but it’s a breeding ground for mould and is in terrible shape. Lots of work to get her looking decent…

And finally, today, got the jib unfurled. It’s worse than I thought. Again, not the right one for the boat, the luff is too long (a shackle has literally been inserted through holes punched in the sail to enable it to be attached). Oh, and that slightly tight patch when moving the steering gear? I’m now pretty sure the rudder is bent. Bugger. And removed the mouldy cushions – no point in major internal cleaning (pressure washing needed) until they’re gone… There’s a lot more to go…

First visit

First time we could visit. It’s been a while…

So as we get to know her a bit better, there’s good and there’s bad.

As expected, kinda.

What to say?

Today’s trip was mainly making contact, seeing how long it takes to get there (around 2.5 hours each way by motorbike, quite a long haul) and making lists of things to do & taking dimensions of things I’ll need to do / buy / … (they’re long lists…)

There’s a lot of work here; from headlining to cushions to finding leaks (and fixing) to … and eventually, swapping the diesel to electric. I do like the peace and quiet on the mooring, and the view, though…

https://wiki.westerly-owners.co.uk/index.php?title=Chieftain


Buying the boat…

Today we did it. Foolish, it may be; but we agreed to buy a boat, with a view to electric conversion.

In the midst of a pandemic? When we couldn’t even travel to see it? And immediately after losing a good job at UKAEA, which I loved? (EU funded, January 2021 was … interesting…)

Yeah. Not ideal.

But the price is right, and the boat is too. Unknown work to be done, definitely well into the “big project” territory, and we know there’s been water inside (tide marks visible in the photos, etc). And definite leaks from main cabin windows. And a diesel which is declared seized.

But it’s a Westerly (and I have good memories of Westerlies as a kid, Dad had a few of them, they’re very solidly built). And it’s a Chieftain (only 79 built, though I’ve seen 66 from different sources) which adds a little scarcity value (and, well, memories of pre-teen holidays on Dad’s one – Zulu Fox). We have been assured that the hull is watertight; and that’s the main thing TBH: The fibreglass is well built, and the rest can be sorted.

Basically a Chieftain is a Centaur with an aft cabin rather than the quarter-berths (so no vast aft locker, weighing down the stern with all the clobber that accumulates there, but instead a couple of lockers in the front of the cockpit, which may be useful for cockpit accessible need-to-keep-dry but near-to-the-motors-and-batteries stuff, if needed). And the cockpit is very enclosed, sheltered, good for both the other half and the dog.

Well, here we go. More later, when we get to see her…

https://sailboatdata.com/sailboat/chieftain-26-westerly